Legislature(2013 - 2014)HOUSE FINANCE 519

04/04/2014 08:30 AM House FINANCE


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+ HB 89 AQUATIC INVASIVE SPECIES TELECONFERENCED
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+ HB 361 LICENSING OF BEHAVIOR ANALYSTS TELECONFERENCED
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HOUSE BILL NO. 361                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act relating to licensing of behavior analysts."                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:43:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DAN  SADDLER, SPONSOR,  read from the  HB 361                                                                    
sponsor statement:                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Autism is a significant  and growing problem in Alaska.                                                                    
     Statistics  show  that one  in  110  Alaska children  -                                                                    
     about  1 percent  - are  born  with this  developmental                                                                    
     disability,  characterized by  a diminished  ability to                                                                    
    communicate, social isolation, and other symptoms.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     While  not curable,  autism  is treatable.  Scientific,                                                                    
     peer-reviewed studies  have shown that  early intensive                                                                    
     treatment in  the form  of Applied  Behavioral Analysis                                                                    
     offers the best opportunity  to help people with autism                                                                    
     improve  their  ability  to  function  productively  in                                                                    
     society.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Applied Behavior  Analysis is  recognized as  the basis                                                                    
     for the most effective form  of treatment for autism by                                                                    
     the  U.S. Surgeon  General, The  National Institute  of                                                                    
     Child Health,  and the American Academy  of Pediatrics.                                                                    
     You can  best understand  ABA as  behavior modification                                                                    
     therapy: It seeks to  encourage appropriate behavior by                                                                    
     assessing  and managing  the  relationship between  the                                                                    
     environment and the desired behavior.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Forty  years  of research  shows  that  nearly half  of                                                                    
     people   with  autism   who  receive   intensive  early                                                                    
     intervention  and  treatment  do not  require  lifelong                                                                    
     services  and support  -- and  half can  achieve normal                                                                    
     functioning  after two  to three  years. This  can mean                                                                    
     lifetime  savings of  $200,000  to $1.1  million for  a                                                                    
     person through the age of 55.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     One  of  the  most  important  elements  in  successful                                                                    
     autism treatment is having  it provided by well-trained                                                                    
     behavioral therapists  - those who hold  the nationally                                                                    
     recognized  credential  of  Board-Certified  Behavioral                                                                    
     Analyst, or BCBA.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     To qualify  as a BCBA,  applicants must have  a minimum                                                                    
     of  a  master's  degree, plus  extensive  training  and                                                                    
     experience  requirements  of  up   to  1,500  hours  of                                                                    
     supervised  practice   in  the  field,  225   hours  of                                                                    
     graduate-level classroom  work, or a  year's experience                                                                    
     teaching ABA  at the university  level. They  must also                                                                    
     pass  the challenging  BCBA certification  examination.                                                                    
     The  Board-Certified Assistant  Behavioral Analyst,  or                                                                    
     BCaBA credential, requires slightly lower standards.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     The  state  already  supports  the  training  of  BCBAs                                                                    
     through a  grant to the  Center for  Human Development,                                                                    
     at the University of Alaska  Anchorage. There are about                                                                    
     20 to  30 BCBAs  and BCaBAs  in Alaska  today, although                                                                    
    not all of them are currently working in the field.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Under  current state  law, Alaskans  with BCBAs  cannot                                                                    
     bill health  insurance companies or Medicaid  for their                                                                    
     services at a  rate that reflects their  high degree of                                                                    
     training and  professional skill  because they  are not                                                                    
     formally licensed.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     HB 361 addresses this situation  by providing for those                                                                    
     holding the BCBA  or BCaBA credentials in  Alaska to be                                                                    
     licensed by the Division  of Professional Licensing, in                                                                    
     the  Alaska  Department   of  Commerce,  Community  and                                                                    
     Economic Development.  Fourteen other  states currently                                                                    
     provide licensing and  regulate behavior analysts. This                                                                    
     approach has the strong support  of Alaska BCBAs and of                                                                    
     national autism advocacy groups.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:46:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Saddler  continued   reading  the   sponsor                                                                    
statement:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     By ensuring licensing and  higher standards of practice                                                                    
     for BCBAs and BCaBAs, HB 361 will:                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     ·  encourage more people to provide  autism services in                                                                    
        Alaska                                                                                                                  
     ·  offer higher  reimbursement  rates for  professional                                                                    
        providers                                                                                                               
     ·  provide better  outcomes  for  Alaska children  with                                                                    
        autism                                                                                                                  
     ·  save the state money by avoiding the need for costly                                                                    
        institutional care, and                                                                                                 
     ·  improve the quality of life for hundreds of Alaskans                                                                    
        and their families                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:47:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Neuman   thought  the  bill  looked   like  good                                                                    
legislation and was interested in hearing more about it.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Guttenberg  thanked the sponsor  for bringing                                                                    
the bill  forward. He  wondered whether  behavioral analysts                                                                    
would  automatically   slide  into  an  existing   board  or                                                                    
commission. Representative Saddler  replied in the negative;                                                                    
there was  not currently a board  of professional behavioral                                                                    
analysts.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Thompson asked  for verification  that there                                                                    
were  currently   39  Board-Certified   Behavioral  Analysts                                                                    
(BCBA) in Alaska. Representative  Saddler replied that there                                                                    
were  approximately 24  BCBAs  in  the state.  Additionally,                                                                    
there were  a number of individuals  currently going through                                                                    
the  program supported  by a  grant through  the Center  for                                                                    
Economic Development. He  did not know the  number of Board-                                                                    
Certified Assistant Behavioral Analysts (BCaBA) in Alaska.                                                                      
Representative Thompson  noted that it was  expensive to run                                                                    
a  board.  He  asked about  licensing  fees.  Representative                                                                    
Saddler  replied  that  a  licensing   board  would  not  be                                                                    
required. Licensing  came through the department  similar to                                                                    
mortuary  scientists and  other  small professional  groups;                                                                    
there   were   not   currently  fees   associated   with   a                                                                    
professional  licensing board.  There  were  some fees  that                                                                    
members would  pay for  licensing, but he  did not  have the                                                                    
assessment of the cost.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Thompson   remarked   that   Representative                                                                    
Saddler's response had satisfied  his concern related to the                                                                    
cost per licensee.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Saddler added  that BCBAs  had been  seeking                                                                    
the licensure and were willing  to accept the national costs                                                                    
and records. He  noted the existence of  an Autism Insurance                                                                    
Task Force; one of  entity's likely recommendations would be                                                                    
to seek  licensure through  the department  at low  cost and                                                                    
impact.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:49:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wilson wondered  whether any  investigations                                                                    
would take place. She understood  that the majority of board                                                                    
costs  were   associated  with  investigations.   She  asked                                                                    
whether    the   board    would   have    an   investigator.                                                                    
Representative Saddler  did not believe the  licensees would                                                                    
have  an   assigned  investigator.  He  detailed   that  any                                                                    
investigation  work would  be conducted  by the  Division of                                                                    
Corporations,  Business  and  Professional  Licensing  under                                                                    
DCCED.  He  did not  believe  many  professional boards  had                                                                    
their own investigator.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stoltze relayed  that  some [professional  boards]                                                                    
did have their own investigators.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson  asked to  hear from DCCED  related to                                                                    
investigative work  and the difference  between professional                                                                    
boards.  She  wanted  to  ensure  that  licensees  were  not                                                                    
saddled with costly investigation fees.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze  commented that the bill  would receive the                                                                    
same scrutiny as  any new board due to  uncertainty on costs                                                                    
and  revenues.  He  acknowledged  the  virtue  of  the  idea                                                                    
contained in the legislation.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:52:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RICHARD KIEFER-O'DONNELL, ASSOCIATE  DIRECTOR, UNIVERSITY OF                                                                    
ALASKA  ANCHORAGE CENTER  FOR  HUMAN DEVELOPMENT,  ANCHORAGE                                                                    
(via teleconference),  spoke in support of  the legislation.                                                                    
He  detailed that  the Center  for Human  Development was  a                                                                    
federally   funded  University   Center  of   Excellence  on                                                                    
Developmental  Disabilities;  its  role  was  to  serve  the                                                                    
entire  state.   The  entity  supported  services   and  the                                                                    
development of  workforce capacity. He focused  primarily on                                                                    
the backstory  associated with the development  of the bill.                                                                    
He  referred  to work  done  by  the Governor's  Council  on                                                                    
Disabilities and  Special Education that began  in 2006; the                                                                    
council developed  several reports documenting the  needs of                                                                    
children  with autism  and their  families. The  council had                                                                    
recommended   that  the   state  invest   energy  into   the                                                                    
development  of  autism  specialists.  He  detailed  that  a                                                                    
stakeholder meeting had  been held in November  of 2008 that                                                                    
included state  agencies, the private sector,  and families.                                                                    
The goal had been to  develop recommendations about what the                                                                    
autism  specialists   should  look   like.  The   group  had                                                                    
recommended  that the  Center of  Human Development  work to                                                                    
establish a BCBA training program.  He spoke to funding from                                                                    
a  trust and  general funds.  He discussed  the decision  to                                                                    
partner with  an existing program  due to the high  need for                                                                    
BCBAs.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Kiefer-O'Donnell relayed  that the  program was  in its                                                                    
fifth  cohort of  students (a  cohort  worked for  2.5 to  3                                                                    
years)  working with  children and  adults  with autism.  He                                                                    
spoke to  the success of  the program. He  discussed program                                                                    
requirements  for  certification.  Existing BCBAs  had  been                                                                    
involved with the private sector,  school districts, and the                                                                    
state. Additionally,  they had been centrally  involved with                                                                    
the  implementation of  the Complex  Behavior Collaborative.                                                                    
He relayed that  the program had been  well-received and was                                                                    
cost-effective.  He  noted  the   existing  demand  for  the                                                                    
advanced degree. Program participants  were required to have                                                                    
a  minimum of  a  master's  degree. He  spoke  to the  well-                                                                    
defined  structure within  the national  credentialing board                                                                    
related to  the monitoring  of licensees and  any associated                                                                    
grievances.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:58:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ANNETTE  BLANAS,  CENTER  FOR HUMAN  DEVELOPMENT,  ANCHORAGE                                                                    
(via   teleconference),   testified    in   favor   of   the                                                                    
legislation.  She  mentioned  the  importance  of  licensure                                                                    
related to  billing and the ability  to retain professionals                                                                    
in  Alaska. She  discussed  the importance  of licensure  in                                                                    
terms  of quality  control  of  professionals for  families.                                                                    
Currently  families with  autistic  children were  desperate                                                                    
for  services.   She  relayed  that  with   so  few  options                                                                    
available, families would take  any services they could get.                                                                    
She detailed  that families had  nowhere to  direct concerns                                                                    
if  services were  of poor  quality. She  believed licensure                                                                    
would offer  a level  of quality control  for professionals.                                                                    
Rural communities with limited  access to professionals were                                                                    
at risk  of receiving  services by unqualified  workers. She                                                                    
detailed that  rural communities tended to  be isolated from                                                                    
other professionals  that would  recognize the  issues early                                                                    
on.  The  licensure  process  would   provide  a  venue  for                                                                    
addressing  the issues.  Lastly,  families  living in  rural                                                                    
communities were often  even more desperate for  any type of                                                                    
services, which  could lead families  to accept  low quality                                                                    
services.  The  low  quality   services  could  create  more                                                                    
challenges than  what may have existed  before services were                                                                    
provided. She  stated that  licensure provided  a foundation                                                                    
of  minimum  quality  across  the   profession  and  in  all                                                                    
communities; it would  also implement a way  for families to                                                                    
address ethical concerns.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:01:18 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RACHEL WHITE,  DOCTOR AND  OWNER, GOOD  BEHAVIOR BEGINNINGS,                                                                    
ANCHORAGE  (via teleconference),  spoke  in  support of  the                                                                    
bill. She  spoke to  her BCBA  credentials at  the doctorate                                                                    
level.  Her company  provided in-home  services to  children                                                                    
with  autism. She  believed licensing  providers would  help                                                                    
provide families with  access to insurance-covered services.                                                                    
She relayed  that currently  some insurance  companies would                                                                    
not  cover  behavioral  analyst services  because  no  state                                                                    
licensing  existed.  She  communicated   that  there  was  a                                                                    
national  board  that   oversaw  behavioral  analysts  where                                                                    
ethical concerns could be directed.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:03:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LORRI  UNUMB,  VICE  PRESIDENT,  STATE  GOVERNMENT  AFFAIRS,                                                                    
AUTISM   SPEAKS,   SOUTH  CAROLINA   (via   teleconference),                                                                    
testified in  support of the  legislation. She spoke  to her                                                                    
professional background  in the autism field.  She worked as                                                                    
a professor at George  Washington University Law School; she                                                                    
had a son with autism. She  pointed to the national trend of                                                                    
BCBA  licensure,  which  was driven  in  part  by  insurance                                                                    
legislation that  had passed in 35  states including Alaska.                                                                    
At  present  15 states  had  created  a licensure  or  state                                                                    
certification  for behavior  analysts; Alabama  had recently                                                                    
passed legislation.  She believed  Maryland had  also passed                                                                    
legislation  the previous  day. She  added that  states were                                                                    
moving  in the  direction  of licensure  to ensure  consumer                                                                    
protection.  She  had  studied   the  bills  nationwide  and                                                                    
believed  the   current  legislation  was  sound   and  well                                                                    
drafted.  She  detailed that  some  states  had created  new                                                                    
boards  and other  states had  put licensure  under existing                                                                    
boards. She opined  that it could work fine  either way. She                                                                    
was in full  support of the bill's reliance  on the existing                                                                    
national certification.  She noted  that the  credential had                                                                    
been  examined  and  approved by  insurance  companies.  She                                                                    
agreed that  the national Behavioral  Analysts Certification                                                                    
Board disciplinary  mechanism was a real  enforcement piece;                                                                    
she  had  seen  individuals   lose  their  certification  or                                                                    
receive other reprimands. The  bill also created appropriate                                                                    
exemptions for  those who should  not require a  license and                                                                    
created  temporary  licenses  for  individuals  transferring                                                                    
from other states.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:06:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SUZANNE   LETSO,  CEO,   ALASKA   CENTER   FOR  AUTISM   AND                                                                    
CONNECTICUT CENTER  FOR CHILD DEVELOPMENT,  CONNECTICUT (via                                                                    
teleconference), spoke in support of  the bill. She spoke to                                                                    
her professional  background. She pointed to  four documents                                                                    
she  had  provided to  the  committee  (copy on  file).  One                                                                    
document showed  a budget that  had been done  for Kentucky;                                                                    
the net  cost was  roughly $7,000 and  included the  cost of                                                                    
running a  disciplinary board. She  believed one  option was                                                                    
to run disciplinary processes  through Alaska by temporarily                                                                    
deferring  to  the  Behavioral Analyst  Certification  Board                                                                    
disciplinary  process until  an  appropriation  was made  or                                                                    
sufficient revenue  from fees were accumulated.  She relayed                                                                    
that the  cost of running  a licensing program would  be low                                                                    
because  of   the  BCBA's  ability  to   absorb  costs.  She                                                                    
communicated that the state stood  to save substantial money                                                                    
by bringing  children back in-state who  were currently only                                                                    
able  to be  served out-of-state.  She referred  to a  cost-                                                                    
benefit analysis pertaining to  Texas, which determined that                                                                    
by  providing intensive  Applied  Behavioral Analysis  (ABA)                                                                    
approximately   $208,000   had   been  saved   per   student                                                                    
throughout  their  18-year  education.  She  referred  to  a                                                                    
second cost-benefit  analysis from a lifespan  approach that                                                                    
found savings  of $200,000 to $600,000  per child (conducted                                                                    
by Jacobson,  Mulick, and Green).  Lastly, she pointed  to a                                                                    
document  she had  created on  finances in  Connecticut. The                                                                    
document  looked  at the  cost  of  providing ABA  placement                                                                    
services  in and  out of  districts;  providing the  minimum                                                                    
adult day-service programs for  people with disabilities for                                                                    
60 years  saved the state  $200,000 per person.  She relayed                                                                    
that if a disabled person could  remain at home for 25 years                                                                    
prior  to  residential services  it  would  save between  $3                                                                    
million and $4 million per  person. She concluded that there                                                                    
were many  ways the legislation  could have a  very positive                                                                    
impact.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:11:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Neuman CLOSED public testimony.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Wilson   requested   to   hear   from   the                                                                    
department.  She spoke  about  concerns related  to a  small                                                                    
board's  ability  to  absorb  costs.  She  wondered  if  the                                                                    
professionals  could be  included  under  an existing  board                                                                    
instead of creating a new one.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SARA   CHAMBERS,   DIRECTOR,   DIVISION   OF   CORPORATIONS,                                                                    
BUSINESS,   AND   PROFESSIONAL  LICENSING,   DEPARTMENT   OF                                                                    
COMMERCE, COMMUNITY  AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT,  relayed that                                                                    
there  were   many  variables  that  went   into  licensing.                                                                    
Centralized  licensing  statutes  and  regulations  required                                                                    
investigations  to   take  place   in  response   to  public                                                                    
complaints or other  red flags (for all  professions with or                                                                    
without a board). She had  determined that potential cost to                                                                    
behavior analysts if licensed,  would be fairly minimal. She                                                                    
estimated a  $2,000 per year cost  for investigative related                                                                    
costs. She  noted that investigations could  be triggered by                                                                    
license  applications  when   there  were  requirements  for                                                                    
potential  licensees to  disclose  certain information.  The                                                                    
initial   biennium  program   estimates  included   one-time                                                                    
startup  costs for  a 25  to 42  person program  of $700  to                                                                    
$1,200   for  licensure.   The  number   would  dramatically                                                                    
decrease after the  one-time startup had been  paid with the                                                                    
first  biennium   fee  (AS   08.01.065  required   that  all                                                                    
licensing costs were borne by  licensees). She detailed that                                                                    
licensing fees for  the program could be  anywhere from $400                                                                    
to $600  in the  out years. She  advised that  her estimates                                                                    
erred on the more expensive end.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:16:23 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wilson believed  one of  the drivers  behind                                                                    
the proposed implementation of the  board was due to lack of                                                                    
insurance coverage for services.  She asked for verification                                                                    
that insurance would pay if  there was a board certification                                                                    
in place.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Saddler clarified that  the program was not a                                                                    
professional licensing  board model.  He expounded  that the                                                                    
program would fall under  departmental licensure. He relayed                                                                    
that licensed  providers would  be subject  to reimbursement                                                                    
from  private  insurance  at  a  higher  rate,  which  would                                                                    
benefit the public, providers, and families.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wilson spoke  to  a bill  from recent  years                                                                    
related  to payment  by private  insurance. She  wondered if                                                                    
the lack of  insurance coverage was a  primary driver behind                                                                    
the  legislation.  She  surmised   that  the  proposal  [for                                                                    
departmental licensure]  had been  used because it  was less                                                                    
expensive for licensees than a board would be.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Saddler  replied   in  the  affirmative.  He                                                                    
elaborated  that BCBAs  had  experienced challenges  billing                                                                    
for services in Alaska.  Drawing on national experience, one                                                                    
of the recommendations was that  licensing BCBAs would place                                                                    
them  in a  more  easily identifiable  category for  private                                                                    
health insurance purposes.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:18:23 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Thompson  appreciated the  clarification that                                                                    
the  bill would  not  establish  a board.  He  spoke to  the                                                                    
expenses  of board  travel  for meetings.  He  pointed to  a                                                                    
letter  in  committee  members' packets  from  Premera  Blue                                                                    
Cross  (copy  on  file) that  suggested  specifying  that  a                                                                    
provider  was practicing  within the  scope of  licensure or                                                                    
specialty  standards.  He  asked  if the  bill  sponsor  had                                                                    
reviewed the recommendation.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Saddler  answered that he had  not thoroughly                                                                    
addressed the suggestion. He was amenable to the change.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Thompson  wondered if Premera Blue  Cross may                                                                    
require the inclusion of the  language before it would honor                                                                    
an  insurance  claim.  Representative Saddler  believed  the                                                                    
company had provided its support of the bill in writing.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Thompson agreed  that the  company supported                                                                    
the bill, but pointed to its language suggestion.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze asked the bill  sponsor to follow up on the                                                                    
suggestion. Representative Saddler agreed.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Guttenberg  spoke to  the fact that  the bill                                                                    
would not  create a  board. He  asked for  verification that                                                                    
investigative fees  would be included in  license costs. Ms.                                                                    
Chambers replied in the affirmative.  She elaborated that AS                                                                    
08.01.065 required  all costs  attributable to  a particular                                                                    
licensing  program to  be paid  by licensees  (whether there                                                                    
was a  board or not).  There were 20 boards  and commissions                                                                    
and 19 licensed programs  without boards or commissions. She                                                                    
detailed  that  a board  or  commission  had the  governance                                                                    
power  to  dig  into  practice  policies  that  protect  the                                                                    
public;  whereas, administrative  activities (e.g.  issuance                                                                    
of licenses, performance of  investigations, and other) were                                                                    
departmental   requirements.   However,   a  board   had   a                                                                    
significant  role  in  driving the  level  of  investigation                                                                    
within  the   scope  of   its  sentencing   guidelines.  She                                                                    
summarized that investigative activity  was a licensing cost                                                                    
that  was legally  required  to be  paid  by licensees.  She                                                                    
noted that  the topic  would be  discussed over  the interim                                                                    
with the legislature.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:22:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Guttenberg   asked  for   verification  that                                                                    
investigation  fees did  not include  criminal prosecutions.                                                                    
Ms. Chambers  replied in the affirmative.  She detailed that                                                                    
the  department  had  civil   authority,  but  not  criminal                                                                    
authority. She  referred to  an example she  had given  in a                                                                    
separate bill  hearing related  to a  potential prostitution                                                                    
investigation;  the  investigation   would  fall  under  the                                                                    
purview of the Department of  Public Safety or municipal law                                                                    
enforcement. However, a conviction  may have a domino effect                                                                    
on an  individual's license. She referred  to testimony from                                                                    
the national board  that there was a  strong opportunity for                                                                    
the national board to have a  hand in effecting the level of                                                                    
investigation  on licensure  particularly  because the  bill                                                                    
leaned heavily on the certification.  She elaborated that if                                                                    
an individual's  certification was  revoked by  the national                                                                    
board there  would be  no cost to  licensees, but  the state                                                                    
would then  have the opportunity  to discipline or  revoke a                                                                    
license as required by law.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Thompson  believed   the  issue   was  very                                                                    
important. He  believed the cost  of going after  a licensee                                                                    
for misbehavior  was a responsibility  of the state.  He did                                                                    
not  support saddling  other licensees  with the  associated                                                                    
costs.  He believed  the issue  should be  addressed in  the                                                                    
future.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze  discussed the cost of  the legislation. He                                                                    
believed the fiscal notes had  green lights. He pointed to a                                                                    
question  related   to  the  overall  cost,   which  was  an                                                                    
uncertainty   associated   with   doing  anything   new   in                                                                    
government.  He stated  that  it was  good  to hear  "autism                                                                    
speak." He believed  it had been a  silent and misunderstood                                                                    
subject,  which effected  many  people.  He appreciated  the                                                                    
sponsor's efforts.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Neuman  remarked  that   the  committee  was  in                                                                    
support of the collaborative  behavioral health program that                                                                    
worked to help autism patients.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze hoped to hear the bill again soon.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
HB  361  was  HEARD  and   HELD  in  committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:26:20 AM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:27:25 AM                                                                                                                    
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Document Name Date/Time Subjects
CSHB89_CNIPM_Support.pdf HFIN 4/4/2014 8:30:00 AM
HB 89
HB 89 - Alaska Dispatch Nov. 28, 2013 With a noxious aquatic weed threatening Alaska's prime fishing waters, science and local politics are at odds.pdf HFIN 4/4/2014 8:30:00 AM
HB 89
Explanation of Changes HB 89 to CSHB 89(RES).pdf HFIN 4/4/2014 8:30:00 AM
HB 89
HB 89 Aquatic Invasive Species Background Information.pdf HFIN 4/4/2014 8:30:00 AM
HB 89
HB 89- KCAW Sitka Local News.pdf HFIN 4/4/2014 8:30:00 AM
HB 89
HB 89 letters.pdf HFIN 4/4/2014 8:30:00 AM
HB 89
HB 89 Sponsor Statement.pdf HFIN 4/4/2014 8:30:00 AM
HB 89
MOU Invasive Freshwater Aquatic Plants_State Agencies.pdf HFIN 4/4/2014 8:30:00 AM
HB 89
HB 361 - Letters of Support - combined.pdf HFIN 4/4/2014 8:30:00 AM
HB 361
HB 361 Sponsor Statement.pdf HFIN 4/4/2014 8:30:00 AM
HB 361
HB 361 Sectional Analysis.pdf HFIN 4/4/2014 8:30:00 AM
HB 361
HB 361 - Letter of Support for HFIN - Suzanne Letso.pdf HFIN 4/4/2014 8:30:00 AM
HB 361
HB 361 - Letter of Support AKABA Position Statement.pdf HFIN 4/4/2014 8:30:00 AM
HB 361
HB 361 - Jacobson and Mulick Behavioral Interventions Cost Benefit for early behavioral intervention abstract.pdf HFIN 4/4/2014 8:30:00 AM
HB 361
HB 361 - Connecticut cost comparison - Suzanne Letso.pdf HFIN 4/4/2014 8:30:00 AM
HB 361
HB 361 - CCEIBISEChildrenAutism4 - provided by Suzanne Letso.pdf HFIN 4/4/2014 8:30:00 AM
HB 361
HB 89 support emails.pdf HFIN 4/4/2014 8:30:00 AM
HB 89